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Saturday, February 14, 2009

Octuplets Updates

February 14, 2009
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Octuplet Mom Updates: Church Lies, Video game Shopping, A Gag Order, And Her Doctor's OTHER Over-Fertilized Patient
The Huffington Post
Feb 14, 2009
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There are many new tidbits being learned about octuplet mom Nadya Suleman and the fertility doctor who allegedly implanted her with six embryos.
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Despite the strain of having fourteen children, Suleman went out for a manicure Friday and spent at least part of Wednesday shopping for video games, as seen in a photo obtained by TMZ. The site also unearthed documents showing Suleman failed to pay multiple parking tickets and had her minivan booted two years ago.
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Nadya has reportedly put a gag order on her mother Angela, with whom she has lived and who has cared for her six older children, after Angela accepted money for a videotaped interview. Nadya's publicist Joann Killeen said:
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"I had to put a gag on Nadya's mother, who sold her out to RadarOnline. They paid her $40,000 to sell [Nadya] out and she can't talk about her daughter for three months."...
She also believes Nadya Suleman's days in maternity wards are over.
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"There's nothing left in the frozen vault," Killeen says. "There's nothing left to defrost."
A church is also hitting out against Suleman, saying that, despite reports, they do not know Nadya and are not helping her find a home. The released a statement saying part (bolding HuffPo's):
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Nadya Suleman has recently commented she attends Calvary Chapel Golden Springs, which prompted several media follow up inquires concerning her attendance. Since our church is not membership-driven, we are unable to confirm or deny whether she actively attends this fellowship.
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We can say, however, that she is not personally known to our pastors or staff. And to the best of our knowledge, Ms. Suleman's only contact with us was a minor inquiry regarding our Children's Ministry.
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Ms. Suleman has also been credited with commenting that our church is in someway involved with the establishment of a foundation for donation distribution, providing her with financial assistance, and helping her locate a new residence. Our church is not involved in any of these activities.
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Suleman's doctor is now under additional scrutiny about a woman in her late 40s who already had three children, but wanted just one with her new, younger husband: A few months after Dr. Michael Kamrava helped Nadya Suleman become pregnant with octuplets, he transferred at least seven embryos to another patient...
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Now she's five months pregnant with quadruplets and hospitalized at Los Angeles County-USC Medical Center, according to several sources familiar with the situation.
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The woman in the latest case arrived recently at Good Samaritan Hospital in Los Angeles for unspecified treatment but was transferred last week to County-USC Medical Center because she lacks insurance.
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From Trial & Tribulations by Sprocket & Company, Caligirl9 presents a great financial overview with excerpts below:
http://sprocket-trials.blogspot.com/2009/02/who-should-and-will-pay.html
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...Thirty-three years ago, Angela Suleman gave birth to her only child, a girl named Natalie Doud. Today that girl calls herself Nadya Suleman because changing her surname to Suleman would “simplify things.” (In what way?)
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Suleman’s father Edward is from Iraq and works in Iraq as a translator or driver to support his wife, daughter and grandchildren. Suleman claimed she had a lonely, dysfunctional childhood as an only child, and she always wanted a big family from the time she was a teen...she grew up with the undivided financial resources of her parents, was a an above-average student and a cheerleader in high school, and has lived with her parents since January 2000.
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In worker's comp documents she described her upbringing as "loving and supportive," not dysfunctional, as she claimed to NBC. Today her “dysfunctional” mother is okay to take care of Nadya’s pre-existing kids.
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Nadya Suleman obtained a psychiatric tech license and began a career at Metropolitan State Hospital in 1997. Her career was short-lived because she was hurt at work during what is described as a riot in November 1999, suffering a back injury which she has milked for 10 years.
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She was dating and ultimately married a man named Marcos Gutierrez from August 1996 to January 2000. The couple completed a divorce in January 2008, and the divorce papers stated there were no children as a result of the marriage. Marcos Gutierrez is not the sperm donor for any of Suleman’s children...
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IVF is not a Kaiser benefit; that treatment occurred in Beverly Hills at the West Coast IVF Clinic owned by Dr. Michael M. Kamrava. Unable to conceive naturally due to what has been described as three ectopic pregnancies, Suleman had numerous embryos created in a petri dish with semen obtained from a male friend who is at times described as her boyfriend. Suleman’s oldest child is 7 years old.
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Her IVF pregnancies all occurred after her on-the-job injury when she was too disabled to work and unemployed, though she also claims prior to injury she worked double-shifts at the mental hospital in Norwalk, saving money or the IVF treatments. Suleman self-reports having spent nearly $100K on IVF alone.
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Per Suleman, all 14 of Suleman’s eggs were fertilized the same time, in other words, multiple ovum were harvested and combined with the boyfriends’ sperm and then a huge batch of embryos were frozen for future use.
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After her work-related injury she attended Cal State Fullerton and graduated with a B.S. ... in child development in 2006. She also gave birth to the first six children (including a set of twins) with her mother as full-time babysitter. Suleman continued college to finish a master’s degree in counseling, but quit in the spring of 2008, presumably to implant a half-dozen embryos...
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Nadya is said to have wanted “just one more girl” as the reason for this last pregnancy.
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...After filing for bankruptcy in March 2008 due to what has been described as a bad real estate debt, Angela Suleman presumably downsized into the 1500-square foot Whittier home that she has so generously converted into a child care facility.
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The university Nadya Suleman attended is a California State University, and the fees are nowhere near $50K for a four-year degree. The fees at Fullerton are $1,260 for 6.1 or more units; graduate fees are $1,551 for 6.1 or more units. There is simply no way that a person, attending a CSU school, needs that kind of money to attend college unless they are also living on those loan proceeds. (Tuition is paid for by taxpayers’ dollars, hence the relatively low cost of attendance.)
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This is from the Fullerton State website regarding college costs:
Typical school year budgets for California residents vary widely. Room and board allowances for nine months range from $3,474 for students living at home to $9,035 for students living on campus and $9,792 for students living off-campus. The allowance for books and supplies is $1,116. Total yearly costs include allowances for registration fees, books and supplies, room and board, transportation and miscellaneous personal expenses and range from $11,470 for a student living at home to $16,761 for a student living on campus and $17,788 for a student living off campus. Nonresident students must also allow for nonresident tuition in addition to the costs listed above. ...Suleman...claiming she needed a housing allowance yet living with parents since January 2000.
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Because the back injury was suffered at work, Nadya Suleman was eligible to receive Temporary Total Disability (TTD) until such time as she is able to go to work or is declared Permanent and Stationary (P&S), meaning the injury has improved as much as it’s going to. At that point, a percentage of total disability is determined and the injured worker receives a cash award paid in installments.
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..Suleman has never been declared P&S and had been receiving non-taxed TTD for nearly ten years. TTD was cut off last summer, but not before she’d received $165,000. Her TTD had been cut off in July of 2001 but she appealed to the Worker’s Compensation Appeals Board claiming she was still disabled due to pregnancy and a car accident she claims to have had while driving somewhere for treatment.
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If a person is injured for more than one year (on-the-job or not), he or she is eligible for social security. That payment currently is around $900 a month. Thus far no one is talking about Suleman receiving this benefit, but she’s eligible to apply...
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There is also SSI, supplemental security income, which is given regardless of work history to people with no income.
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...she is also eligible for CALWORKs, which means financial assistance for herself and her children while she is learning a trade. ...not saying she’s getting it, but she certainly could go looking for it.
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Three of Suleman’s children receive SSI; one is said to be autistic, and Suleman claims that the other two kids receiving SSI are receiving it “temporarily” and that their conditions are treatable/curable (one has attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and another speech delays characteristic of mild autism). According to one newspaper source, a low-income family can receive payments of up to $793 a month for each disabled child. Three disabled kids equals $2,379.
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She also receives food stamps valued at just under $500 a month.
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Nadya Suleman does not consider any of those checks she receives in the mail welfare of any sort, and she claims the aid is only temporary. ...When the octuplets were born in January, the Kaiser hospital in Whittier and Suleman claimed that the bill was being paid. Yes it was. In California, pregnancy and labor equals instant emergency Medi-Cal coverage. Kaiser wasn’t donating services at all; it saw a wonderful opportunity for publicity and also the right to bill the fine taxpayers of California for this pregnancy, birth and neonatal ICU costs.
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In 2006, according to the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, the average cost for a preemie infant’s hospitalization was $164,273. A singleton c-section cost $22,762. Nadya Suleman has been hospitalized on strict bed rest since October 2008. She is said to have stopped paying Kaiser premiums in November 2008.
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Nadya Suleman is a case study in knowing how to manipulate a system fully to her benefit...
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Then there is plastic surgery to make Suleman look more like Angelina Jolie, plumping the lips, nose job.
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The Nadya Suleman Family Website:
http://www.thenadyasulemanfamily.com/
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Angelina Jolie 'creeped out' by octuplets mum Nadya Suleman
http://www.news.com.au/entertainment/story/0,28383,25056414-10230,00.html
By staff writers
NEWS.com.au
February 14, 2009 11:30pm
*Jolie "creeped out" by octuplet's mum
*Rumours she's had surgery to look like star
*Says its eight years since she had sex
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HOLLYWOOD star Angelina Jolie is said to be "creeped out" by octuplet's mother Nadya Suleman after she received several admiring letters from her and rumours she had plastic surgery to look like the actress.
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Suleman’s resemblance to Jolie has sparked rumours that she underwent plastic surgery to look more like the actress and kept expanding her brood in an effort to keep up with Jolie, who has six children with partner Brad Pitt.
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Sources have claimed Suleman is so “obsessed” with Jolie that she even sends the her letters. Sources close to Jolie said the 33-year-old Suleman had written to Jolie praising her support of children, the Daily Mail reports. She is said to be irritated by Suleman - and particularly the plastic surgery rumours.
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(And note that all eight of the babies have the middle name Angel. Could be just that they are her angels, as she has said. Could she have been "honoring" Angelina by naming her children after her? Her mothers name IS Angela, so that could be her cover. Who know?)
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btw: Angelina--it takes a nut to know one.

3 comments:

Anonymous said...

It is so obvious why she had these kids. She is a religious fanatic. She named all her kids after biblical names and said she’s not worried about how support them. She said “God will help her find a way.” Where are all religious nuts that will deny evolution & natural selection but will go out and have In vitro fertilization and call it a miracle? Have the preacher down the road support her & all those kids. He’s the one filling gullible people like her with crap like “with god anything is possible”. Well let god feed all those kids. I really feel sorry for those kids, they haven’t got a chance. Where are the hypocrites that don’t believe in abortion, but cry that there taxes will now have to support these kid. Where the religious zealots that don’t believe in birth control and every life is precious. Every forum I read, people are out raged at this woman action. No one can talk bad about religion because the boogie man will send you to hell. They cherry pick region to fit their selfish needs. When will we (the human race) work on the quality of life & not quantity of it? Probably never.

Big Red said...

Lighten up.

I'll be having multiple children and when I do, I'll be on welfare too.

Not much you can do about it really.

Anonymous said...

Some pictures taken a few short years ago have appeared in news stories. Her nose was bigger and lips were smaller. She did not look so freaky in those earlier pictures.